The Future Without IPv6

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Interesting essay. I left a response at my blog.
[this is good]
Fascinating.

Why do you assume we're not going to transition to IPv6? I work for a major ISP, and we've recently rolled out IPv6 for our internal tools as a proof of concept. Once that is settled we're going to role it out into the customer space (addressing the cable modems and set-top boxes, so onto customer devices but not anywhere noticeable by the customers themselves). Eventually, once things are ready, I'm sure we'll use it for the public space, too.

We're not the only cable company going down this path now, either.
The EU is going to start mandating that all government purchases related to IP technology are IPv6 compatible.

That alone is causing a number of software companies I've spoken to to start supporting IPv6.

Sometimes strong government works.
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This is very interesting, and reads like a pessimistic summary of the scenarios described in the Yellow Brick Road talk (SimLIR
Sorry -- my last comment was garbled. Here it is:

This is very interesting, and reads like a pessimistic summary of the scenarios described in the Yellow Brick Road talk (SimLIR & Beyond the Yellow Brick Road).

But I don't understand how your last point follows, that "There is no cost for IPv4/NAT high enough to drive adoption of IPv6, because IPv6 will never be an alternative to IPv4". This post mainly describes the economics of an ipv4 address shortage not the economics of a potential ipv6 transition, so it seems like assuming your conclusion to say that increasing ipv4 pain will never make ipv6 an attractive alternative.

I can see reasons that might be the case. Maybe each player's cost of transition will always be higher than the cost of limping along with ipv4, even under ipv4 shortage conditions. Or maybe big players have enough ipv4 addresses to want to preserve that advantage under a shortage regime, and enough political clout to block a transition out of a shortage regime. But you don't really argue these cases.

Let me just also say, as a random guy on the internet watching all this from the sidelines, there is great pathos in watching the mighty jh woodyatt of the 6to4-tunneling Airport Extreme Base Station, a year or two ago, bravely hacking through thickets of confusion concerning application listener discovery protocols, turn into the somewhat embittered jh woodyatt of "we're going to be living on ipv4/NAT for the rest of our lives".

Keep the faith, brother. Worse is not always better. I'm sure Obama's for IPv6.

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